Parkerdawson.com
February 07, 2012, 06:05:55 pm *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

Login with username, password and session length
News:
 
   Home   Help Search Gallery Login Register  

Pages: 1 [2]
  Print  
Author Topic: Replacing Cockpit Drains  (Read 2368 times)
moisez
Supporter
Newbie
*****

Treasure: 0
Last Login:September 22, 2011, 10:32:51 pm
Posts: 15



Activity
1.8%
Respect: 0

View Profile
« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2010, 11:55:43 pm »
0

Hi Josh,

I think going to the side of the pedestal and then down with an elbow into the keel trunk is probably the way to go.  I have not looked specifically at the foward part of the cockpit but the corners may be a very suitable spot.  As I mentioned, I have seen several boats that had drains in all the corners of the cockpit.  As it turns out both my gas tank and water tank are out of the boat so other than the fact that this body is a little big to just get into the starboard locker under the quarter berth your suggestion looks to be the easiest to accomplish.  The nice thing is that you can then put any sized drain in that you want.  I did not have any trouble replacing my rear cockpit drains once I got everything together.  I did not like the plumbing fittings so used bronze thru-hulls for the top.  They fit nicely but do leave about 1/8th of an inch of water in the little channel around the engine cover.  If it starts to bother me I will use a sponge.  lol  It is still summer in Maine but have not got this old girl into the ocean yet.  Hopefully it will happen in a couple more weeks.  The boat itself was in good condition but there were a lot of little things that needed to be fixed before putting her on a hook and leaving her for days at a time. 
Jack
moisez
Supporter
Newbie
*****

Treasure: 0
Last Login:September 22, 2011, 10:32:51 pm
Posts: 15



Activity
1.8%
Respect: 0

View Profile
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2010, 12:05:20 am »
0

Hi Josh,

I went back and looked at the posts and will try to get some pictures in the next few days.  I have not tried to upload anything to the site but it can't be that tough.  I had a really hard time getting into the locker under the quarterberth.  Well, I could get in but not out without help.  This is a job for someone that is smaller than me.  Fortunately, my oldest son who is 30 and sails a lot was willing to do the "inside the locker" part for me.  With what I did I don't expect that it will need any attention any time soon.
Jack
josh_richard
Jr. Member
**

Treasure: 1
Last Login:October 22, 2011, 12:12:15 pm
Posts: 79



Activity
4%
Respect: 0

View Profile WWW
« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2011, 04:36:35 am »
0

Mine drain into the lip around the engine compartment hatch.  There are two small drains on each side of the engine compartment and then they drain thru a single pipe into the keel compartment.  I dont know if this was the original design.

Mine drain into an individual through hull each. Hull #272 has a somewhat similiara configuration.  Original if you are a set of size 1...I have no experience with shipping waves.  See rdubuque as he is in creepy waters.  I have heard of others popping in some conventional plumbing into the cockpit through into the keel trunk.  2" minimum.  That seems to be a good idea as you would gain the influence of gravity.   Saying that, the stock drains should be adequate provided you reduce the risk with screens etc.  Given the costa wreck, we are are all the wiser to reduce risk by installing backing plates or fender washers on the load bearing carrying hardware on this boat moving forward.  Either way you have won.

cheers,

-Josh

Hull #272
Duluth, MN 

 
moisez
Supporter
Newbie
*****

Treasure: 0
Last Login:September 22, 2011, 10:32:51 pm
Posts: 15



Activity
1.8%
Respect: 0

View Profile
« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2011, 11:19:41 pm »
0

Hi,  Finally, I am back to work on the boat.  I owe everyone pictures of what we did to replace the original cockpit drains and will do my best to get that done in the next two weeks.  On the Westerly 28 I had the cockpit drains were through the cockpit floor, then on to seacocks that went into thru-hulls.  The lines were crossed so the starboard drain left through the port thru-hull.  If memory serves the thru-hulls were both below the waterline (hence the seacocks).  We took on a lot of water in the Delaware Bay one time but they drained without issue. 

I got a look at the keel trunk/keel clearances over the winter.  The only way to add drains to the keel trunk is to have the keel all the way down and then it is a little tight.  I was not certain that the keel would clear two thru hulls mounted in the forward section when it was raised.  I have since opted for a different approach.  It might be possible to put the new drains somewhere forward in the cockpit and run lines back to the engine compartment (which is behind the keel trunk) cross them to the opposite side and put in a drain with a seacock.  I will need to do a little more research on this but many boats have this set up.  Apparently with a below the waterline drain you do not have to worry about breaking the surface tension of the water and you also get drainage when heeled.  I paid a lot of money to get the boat lifted and blocked so I could do the new thru-hulls in the keel trunk and after looking decided against it.  As much as I hate making holes in the boat I may try the "crossed line, below the waterline" drains as it seems like a very do-able project. 
Jack
pprescott
Newbie
*

Treasure: 0
Last Login:Today at 02:04:31 am
Posts: 31



Activity
2%
Respect: 0

View Profile
« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2011, 12:58:38 am »
0

The original drains are mounted flush to the surface of the scupper, like a sink drain. The lip on the drain is flush with the gel coat. I have not removed mine but imagine there must be a shallow recess that the lip sits in to be flush. I sure would like to know how you make out if you can manage to mount a larger drain in the same space and run a larger hose to the thru hull. (I figure the thru hulls in the keel trunk will have to be changed, too.) If you do this project successfully, pictures would be helpful.

Note that the original drains have a cross piece in the opening to keep large stuff out of the drain.

 
moisez
Supporter
Newbie
*****

Treasure: 0
Last Login:September 22, 2011, 10:32:51 pm
Posts: 15



Activity
1.8%
Respect: 0

View Profile
« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2011, 01:13:01 pm »
0

I have a ketch and the cockpit drains are in the recessed corners of the engine cover hatch.  Each of my drains is connected to a bronze thru-hull that is one inch in diameter.  No matter what you do to the top, you can only drain the water that a one inch line will carry.  These drain pretty easily into the keel trunk and the run is pretty short.  I am still going to put larger drains in but after lifting the boat and dropping the keel I was concerned about clearances in the trunk.  For all intensive purposes, I did not do what I thought would be an easy way to fix this problem because the reality of the keel trunk was not what I expected.  Next week I should have two full days to get this worked out so will try to give a report on the results.  Jack
Pages: 1 [2]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by S M F | © Parkerdawson.com | Sitemap Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!